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> there's this thought going back to the election, the republicans are blindsided by how badly mitt romney was beaten and see this going on in the republican party itself. is this more than example of what's going on in the republican party? or is this an example of how things are going? >> well, yes, the democrats, if this falls apart and there is no vote in the house and it goes over to the next congress where they have to start over again and the markets plummet tomorrow, people will say that the republicans are the obstructionists. the republicans voted for this bill. mitch and joe biden couldn't be more different not only in philosophy but just persona. and they were acting like the adults in the room doing something for the benefit of the country and the republicans said no we want something else. and they'll be blamed and i think many people will viewer i can canter as the person who put ambition in front of what he thought was the best for the country. >> fox 5 political analyst in tonight. we're watching closely. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is expected to make a full re
> there's this thought going back to the election, the republicans are blindsided by how badly mitt romney was beaten and see this going on in the republican party itself. is this more than example of what's going on in the republican party? or is this an example of how things are going? >> well, yes, the democrats, if this falls apart and there is no vote in the house and it goes over to the next congress where they have to start over again and the markets plummet tomorrow, people...
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i'm going to say it's mitt romney. this is a man who any republican by historical standards should have won the election against a president with unemployment above 7% with the wrong track in the 60%. with the economy still in the doldrums coming back but not coming back enough. president obama, if you want to be honest with yourself, was not supposed to win. mitt romney was supposed to win, and he didn't. by running the worst presidential campaign at least i have ever seen in my young lifetime. >> but how do you call a man with car elevators in his house a loser? he's doing very well. victoria? >> my loser award goes out to my fellow texans in terms of rick perry. rick perry flopped in the primary. then he goes back to texas and puts all his chips behind david dewhurst in the senate race. when ted cruz comes out and mops the floor. so rick perry is a double loser nationally and at the state level. >> richard? >> so i'm going to break my copout rule here and go with a whole group. it's all of those ceos including mitt
i'm going to say it's mitt romney. this is a man who any republican by historical standards should have won the election against a president with unemployment above 7% with the wrong track in the 60%. with the economy still in the doldrums coming back but not coming back enough. president obama, if you want to be honest with yourself, was not supposed to win. mitt romney was supposed to win, and he didn't. by running the worst presidential campaign at least i have ever seen in my young...
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george romney. he exited with his politics in tatters. and the son by failing to live up to his father resuscitated george romney. i think the public's estimation of george romney emerges in a much better place this year than it was before this election. >> that's a good one. i like that. so gang, thank you all for a
george romney. he exited with his politics in tatters. and the son by failing to live up to his father resuscitated george romney. i think the public's estimation of george romney emerges in a much better place this year than it was before this election. >> that's a good one. i like that. so gang, thank you all for a
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millionaires and mitt romney get a pass. they only pay social security on a little of their income. the last debt limit cost taxpayers $25 million because we have to pay interest to banks we still give loans to for free. what i would like to see is entitlement reform. if you are retired from congress and you are a millionaire, you do not get a pension. you do not get health care. if you go to work as a lobbyist, you do not get a pension either. that is the entitlement reform i would like to see. >> a little bit more from the article that just came out on line. according to one republican in the conference room, kantor went robe on the messaging and clearly his colleagues and leadership by surprise with his decision to come out against the bill. technically, the agreement was not yet dead, but boehner's control of this congress is practically nonexistent at this point and there is virtually no chance he can marshal the 120 republicans he insists he needs. tweets are fast and furious. host: next call comes from rick in point pleasant, was to virginia. a democrat. caller: they need to
millionaires and mitt romney get a pass. they only pay social security on a little of their income. the last debt limit cost taxpayers $25 million because we have to pay interest to banks we still give loans to for free. what i would like to see is entitlement reform. if you are retired from congress and you are a millionaire, you do not get a pension. you do not get health care. if you go to work as a lobbyist, you do not get a pension either. that is the entitlement reform i would like to...
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i think it's politically calculated. >> mitt romney -- >> mitt romney politically calculated i think deep down inside, i think there's a little calculus going on with him. >> if he wants to come on the show and talk to me or fake me, which is you, about that, that would be awesome. jane lynch, the finale of "glee" airs next tuesday night on fox. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when you need it. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> this week, this picture became a brand new idea to everybody on the internet machine. when it became a hook for the best new photographic politics meme we have had in a long time. hey girl, ryan gosling, it's madam secretary. the former secretary of state says so the then i sent h
i think it's politically calculated. >> mitt romney -- >> mitt romney politically calculated i think deep down inside, i think there's a little calculus going on with him. >> if he wants to come on the show and talk to me or fake me, which is you, about that, that would be awesome. jane lynch, the finale of "glee" airs next tuesday night on fox. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and...
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. >> mitt romney's caught on tape comments, reveal his true feelings about the poor in the country. how the 47% changed the presidential race. and we traveled the country to bring you stories of workers fighting to keep their jobsed a republicans tried to dismantle labor unions. the future of organized laner and much more. stay tuned. >>> welcome back to msnbc and our rolling coverage of the fiscal cliff deal. the vote overnight was 89-8. it's over in the house. we heard from house democrats as they finished their caucus. coming out in support of that deal that came from the senate and was approved in that vote 89-8. nancy pelosi, highwoyey there a well, to count the votes to make sure how many they could guarantee to support that bill. there's a recent development we have learned here at msnbc. we are hearing there is not support coming from cantor. the speaker is not sure -- he walked by the cameras earlier. did not make a comment. nbc's mike viqueira what are you hearing? >> eric cantor, the number two republican after john boehner, the speaker of the house voiced his lack of sup
. >> mitt romney's caught on tape comments, reveal his true feelings about the poor in the country. how the 47% changed the presidential race. and we traveled the country to bring you stories of workers fighting to keep their jobsed a republicans tried to dismantle labor unions. the future of organized laner and much more. stay tuned. >>> welcome back to msnbc and our rolling coverage of the fiscal cliff deal. the vote overnight was 89-8. it's over in the house. we heard from...
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but did mitt romney lose because of that? no, but no with an asterisk, let's take one example, benghazi. the media played down that story. if they had played it up that could have been a big deal, could have been a game changer, could have swayed the election. mitt romney didn't either, and he decided after the first presidential debate to play it safe, run out the clock, bad strategy and then the hurricane and the embrace with the governor, and the president, lights out. here is where the asterisk is, and media did affect the election. when president obama-- when president obama decided he wanted to run for president, the media decided they were going to fall in love with him. he were going to create an image of somebody who was bigger, better, different, smarter, than any other politicians who came before him. he wasn't even a politician, as far as they were concerned. he was-- there was a chum in the wall street journal that described him as america's first cult personality president. it worked, bill. the pr campaign that
but did mitt romney lose because of that? no, but no with an asterisk, let's take one example, benghazi. the media played down that story. if they had played it up that could have been a big deal, could have been a game changer, could have swayed the election. mitt romney didn't either, and he decided after the first presidential debate to play it safe, run out the clock, bad strategy and then the hurricane and the embrace with the governor, and the president, lights out. here is where the...
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in the end obama beat romney by ten points. on the economic values question that was this, which candidate is more in touch with people like you. 53% said romney's policies would favor the rich. just 10% said that about the president's policies. romney, the first republican nominee in the history of our nbc-wall street journal poll to go into his convention with this personal rating under water and in his campaign with a painful number. just 47% of votes viewing him positively. the obama campaign was also able to get more bang for the buck because they bought ads early. >> the obama campaign purchased it way ahead of time. romney bought it the week of. lesson two, the republican brand needs a hard look. the gop's favorable rating has been under water for two years, since december 2010, and, in fact, if you take that out, it's been nearly five years. in our final poll, full poll before the election, just 36% of registered voters said they had a positive view of the republican party, 43% held a negative view. the democratic party
in the end obama beat romney by ten points. on the economic values question that was this, which candidate is more in touch with people like you. 53% said romney's policies would favor the rich. just 10% said that about the president's policies. romney, the first republican nominee in the history of our nbc-wall street journal poll to go into his convention with this personal rating under water and in his campaign with a painful number. just 47% of votes viewing him positively. the obama...
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that is what romney wound up during the first place. host: we will leave your comments there, frank. pamela in fontana, calif. good afternoon. caller: and does not matter if they pass this or not. the spending has to quit. you are a democrat or republican, what is the difference? you work for the american people. treat them like people, not what political party they are. the president will not talk to republicans. joe biden, i'm proud of him. he worked with them. the talk to the republican house representatives? i don't think so. daniel host: come independent line from four and up. we're talking about congress and the fiscal cliff negotiations. caller: i am a retired police officer. i'm disabled. i cannot work. i have had my pension frozen since -- my cola frozen. i'm just asking my fellow citizens to step up and share the wealth with me. that's all. host: how would you like to see that happen? caller: there is going back to be some taxes on the people who have more money. the cola that is frozen for me every year is costing me money. i
that is what romney wound up during the first place. host: we will leave your comments there, frank. pamela in fontana, calif. good afternoon. caller: and does not matter if they pass this or not. the spending has to quit. you are a democrat or republican, what is the difference? you work for the american people. treat them like people, not what political party they are. the president will not talk to republicans. joe biden, i'm proud of him. he worked with them. the talk to the republican...
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example, for incomes $250,000 and above for individuals, $300,000 for families there is a cap as mitt romney talked about and that is a way of raising revenue from the top 2%. more over there is the preservation of a lot of important things to democrats, tax credits for lower income, middle income families, tax credits for investment, bonus depreciation provision and renewable energy. so there are things in there that i think the vice president will use to try to convince democrats that it's a good deal for everybody including them. >> can i respond to that? >> absolutely. >> david brings up a very good point. this is a very big bill. i obviously just looked at the top line stuff. what leader mcconnell and vice president biden did was borderline brilliant where there is a little bit in here for everybody, both conservatives but also progressives where they can go back to the constituency specifically the house and say i voted for this and here is why. there is farm stuff in there, really some good stuff folks can give them comfort and say this is a good thing for our constituency. >> and, yo
example, for incomes $250,000 and above for individuals, $300,000 for families there is a cap as mitt romney talked about and that is a way of raising revenue from the top 2%. more over there is the preservation of a lot of important things to democrats, tax credits for lower income, middle income families, tax credits for investment, bonus depreciation provision and renewable energy. so there are things in there that i think the vice president will use to try to convince democrats that it's a...
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>> mitt romney. >> and hurricane sandy prompting some changes. (crowd chanting '4 more years) >> christopher stephens dead. >> we will bring these people to justice. >> the impact of hurricane sandy. >> this path of destruction along the eastern seaboard. >> we cannot secure this. >> and another story. call me maybe hooney boo boo and david petraeus. gazaa and syria and the red line and the prediction is the barack obama will be reelected president. >> terror at an elementary school 20 children dead six children also dead. >> our hearts are broken today for the parents, the grandparents the sisters and brother of these children fiord may god bless the memory. and in the words of scripture, heal the brokenhearted and bind up their wounds. (music) >> we will be right back pass the kron 4 morning news continues. this is from our mount tam cam temperatures will be climbing. as a reminder, and a reminder to catch doctor phil right after the kron four morning news at 10 a-m. . >> keeping our eyes on our weather with 60s. the one chance of rainfall seem
>> mitt romney. >> and hurricane sandy prompting some changes. (crowd chanting '4 more years) >> christopher stephens dead. >> we will bring these people to justice. >> the impact of hurricane sandy. >> this path of destruction along the eastern seaboard. >> we cannot secure this. >> and another story. call me maybe hooney boo boo and david petraeus. gazaa and syria and the red line and the prediction is the barack obama will be reelected...
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name mitt romney's sons. >> schlep, tag, josh, ben, matt. >> yes. >> craig? >> yes! >> oh, yes, thank you! >> you did it! >> do we have the election night? a photo kathy sent me on election night and told me to show it to david gergen in the midst of our election coverage. >> i love gary tuchman. >> he's an amazing reporter. >> obviously you are angry with him to send him groundhog day style to top town in maine where he drops a minow in a bucket. ryan, ryan, screw you! we do a better broadcast because we improvise and we're real! >> how is it going? nice to see you. i almost wore this, psy. i was this close to wearing this. >> this is not awkward at all. this is great. >> who was that? >> that was m.c. hammer. >> no, really? >> yes. ♪ babe, i got you babe ♪ i got you babe >> i started sexting george stephanopolous. >> really? >> yeah. >> i'm not the only one you sext? >> no. >> this person says can anderson get in a word once in a while? >> you're like ike turner. "liz and dick" was fantastic, she had on the joan collins wig it was heaven on a stick. >> you hard
name mitt romney's sons. >> schlep, tag, josh, ben, matt. >> yes. >> craig? >> yes! >> oh, yes, thank you! >> you did it! >> do we have the election night? a photo kathy sent me on election night and told me to show it to david gergen in the midst of our election coverage. >> i love gary tuchman. >> he's an amazing reporter. >> obviously you are angry with him to send him groundhog day style to top town in maine where he drops a minow...
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. >> what do you want me to tell romney? i can't tell him to do that. can't do that to himself. [ laughter ] >> two unforgettable and, shall we say, unusual political moments of the year, ones that still resonate with a lot of americans, even those who are happy to bid farewell to the political year 2012. so, what other lessons did we get from the year that was? joining me now with a unique perspective on this and other topics, political comedian dino ma dahlia, also known as the dean of comedy. good morning. >> good morning, happy new year. >> lots to talk about, but first, your take on the fiscal cliff. >> isn't congress great? yesterday nbc had a poll, they had a 11% approval rating. the more shocking part is who are the 11% who think they're doing a good job? how low are their standards to think that congress -- this is the most dysfunctional group of people. we have to put them in couples therapy with dr. phil, dr. doolittle. i'm not sure who can help them. >> i'm not sure. >> we suffer as a result of their bipartisanship. >> we talked about the bi
. >> what do you want me to tell romney? i can't tell him to do that. can't do that to himself. [ laughter ] >> two unforgettable and, shall we say, unusual political moments of the year, ones that still resonate with a lot of americans, even those who are happy to bid farewell to the political year 2012. so, what other lessons did we get from the year that was? joining me now with a unique perspective on this and other topics, political comedian dino ma dahlia, also known as the...
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i get a kick out of mitt romney. he was making fun of everybody. this is terrible and i think something should be done about it. guest: i think progressives agree there should be more equality in with the wealthy pay and what the less wealthy pay. they have raised the rates on the entrances to the estate tax. i think she is looking for a flat tax level where everybody pays the same. timor you learn, the more you kick in to help others. -- the more you earn, more you can to help others. host: somebody happy about the deal on twitter. ke.st: there's a lot to lig unemployment extension is huge. that is a big boost to the economy. people will be better set up to find a job later. host: we are talking about two million people. guest: the earned income tax credit was extended for five years. no cuts in the deal to medicaid and social security. you have the top rates at a higher threshold and extended. there's a lot of gloss you can put on this. there is more benefits for our side than the others. host: lynne is next. caller: i wanted to ask the guest abo
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mitt romney, the party's presidential nominee. change in egypt. mohammed morsi won the country's first free presidential election but sparked enormous protest when he gave himself broad powers. >>> as the summer heated up so did the supreme court. the justices ruled on the affordable care act. the court decided the individual mandate which requires nearly every american to have health insurance or pay a penalty falls under the government's taxation powers. >>> massacre at the movies. james holmes opened fire at the midnight screening at the batman film dark night rises. 12 people killed and 58 others hurt. athletes from all around the globe gathered. in august a somber milestone forearmed forces as the number of u.s. military deaths reached 2,000. >>> violence in a place of worship. a gun man opened fire in a wisconsin temple killing 6 people and wounding four others before he killed himself. >>> mitt romney completed the republican ticket by selecting paul ryan as his running mate. >>> hurricanee isaac canceled the first day. >> i will work with
mitt romney, the party's presidential nominee. change in egypt. mohammed morsi won the country's first free presidential election but sparked enormous protest when he gave himself broad powers. >>> as the summer heated up so did the supreme court. the justices ruled on the affordable care act. the court decided the individual mandate which requires nearly every american to have health insurance or pay a penalty falls under the government's taxation powers. >>> massacre at the...
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. >> name mitt romney's sons. >> ben, matt. >> yes. >> craig. >> oh! yes. thank you. >> oh! >> i thought it was going to be a little longer than it was. last time i saw that there was more going on. >> just like your new year's eve party, wasn't it? >> last time i saw it, with kathy griffin -- >> sectioning david gergen. >> i guess that was the other hour's version. now we know secretary of state hillary clinton's blood clot found in her head, we'll look how serious this is with our president practicing our resident practicing neurosurgeon, dr. sanjay gupta. >> i'll try to get us back on track with honey boo-boo. big newmakers in 2012. who shall we watch in 2013? that's ahead. we'll leave you with dubai as dubai rang in the new year. that's right. wow. that's pretty impressive. >> cool. >> you're watching "starting point." at a dry cleaner, we replaced people with a machine. what? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it? hello? hello?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. hello? ally bank. your money needs an ally. >>> welcome ba
. >> name mitt romney's sons. >> ben, matt. >> yes. >> craig. >> oh! yes. thank you. >> oh! >> i thought it was going to be a little longer than it was. last time i saw that there was more going on. >> just like your new year's eve party, wasn't it? >> last time i saw it, with kathy griffin -- >> sectioning david gergen. >> i guess that was the other hour's version. now we know secretary of state hillary clinton's blood clot...
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the only thing was mitt romney in a debate setting. >> we'll hear from charles krauthammer about that. let's do other headlines, shall we? >> okay. >> countries around the world are ringing in the new year. vatican city holding a special mass to celebrate watch. [singing] >> pope benedict the 16th leading the mass with prayer and singing. the holy ceremony kicked offer at saint peter's basilica in vatican city. a million people packed times square in new york city to ring in the new year. 2,000 pounds of confetti littered times square. the famous water ford crystal ball dropped. in houston, texas, rain did not stop people from heading downtown for performances and fireworks. in baltimore, fireworks lit up inner harbor to welcome 2013. i know you guys were wondering what hugh hefner was doing for the new year. he got himself married to 26-year-old crystal harris. how sweet. where else but the playboy mansion when the clock struck midnight. this comes a year and a half after the couple was supposed to get hitched, but right before the wedding she broke it off. about a month later those
the only thing was mitt romney in a debate setting. >> we'll hear from charles krauthammer about that. let's do other headlines, shall we? >> okay. >> countries around the world are ringing in the new year. vatican city holding a special mass to celebrate watch. [singing] >> pope benedict the 16th leading the mass with prayer and singing. the holy ceremony kicked offer at saint peter's basilica in vatican city. a million people packed times square in new york city to...
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name mitt romney's son. >> tag, josh, ben, matt. >> yes. >> craig? >> yes. >> oh! >> you did it. >> do we have the election night photo? >> there's a photo that kathy sent me on election night and told me to show id to david gergen in the midst of our election coverage. >> i love gary tuchman. obviously you are angry with him. to send him, some sort of town in maine where he drops a minnow in a bucket. ry ryan, screw you! we do better broadcasting. >> i was once doing a live shot with paula zahn and i was in sri lanka and a dog humped my leg. i started giggling. finally i was like, paula, i've just got to tell you, there's a dog humping my leg. >> how's it going, nice to see you? >> i almost wore this. i was this close to wearing that. >> what was that? >> that was -- >> really? >> yes. ♪ i got you babe i got you babe ♪ >> i starting sexting george stephanopoulos. >> really? >> no. >> marissa says for a new year's present can anderson get a word in edgewise every once in awhile. >> you're like ike turner. it was so fantastic, she had on the joan collins wig. oh
name mitt romney's son. >> tag, josh, ben, matt. >> yes. >> craig? >> yes. >> oh! >> you did it. >> do we have the election night photo? >> there's a photo that kathy sent me on election night and told me to show id to david gergen in the midst of our election coverage. >> i love gary tuchman. obviously you are angry with him. to send him, some sort of town in maine where he drops a minnow in a bucket. ry ryan, screw you! we do better...
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will mitt romney ever reveal his true self via ring tone. newt gingrich's ring tone is dancing queen. i think that nobody's going to take a chance on newt gingrich. i could be wrong. can you hear what he is playing? this is dancing queen by abba. i paid for the dancing queen ring tone and i'm keeping it. good-bye, sir. we will miss you until you do it again in four years, if you can figure out how to make money off of it. i live for days like this in politics. easily the best new thing in my world today. best new thing in the world today. everybody's today's news best new thing in the world. best new thing in the world. there's a lot of them. hold on. we'll be right back. not many people want to be outside in unless they have to. only a few people by which i mean a few thousand people bundled up in their rain gear and headed out to grant park in chicago to cheer on veterans of the iraq war and the afghanistan war as the second city staged the second welcome home parade. to say welcome home to the soldiers. go chicago. there were marching ban
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it was a pretty good day for mitt romney. the president's listless performance in that first presidential debate which he says caused me to have a stroke averwards. here's part of his closing argument, if you want to call it that, an argument. >> you know, four years ago i said that i'm not a perfect man and i wouldn't be a perfect president. but i also promised that i'd fight every single day on behalf of the american people and all of those struggling to get in the middle class. if you vote for me, i'm promise i'll fight just as hard in the second term. >> i think a lot of it had to do with how he feels personally about mitt romney. the idea that he was just on the stage with him was beneath him. this guy was someplace else. yeah, yeah, it was his anniversary. politically, he was thinking why am i dealing with tier 2. and it showed. >> right before it, we saw a democrat facing a really tough situation along with a pretty popular governor of new jersey. here he is with the press conference with the new jersey governor, chris
it was a pretty good day for mitt romney. the president's listless performance in that first presidential debate which he says caused me to have a stroke averwards. here's part of his closing argument, if you want to call it that, an argument. >> you know, four years ago i said that i'm not a perfect man and i wouldn't be a perfect president. but i also promised that i'd fight every single day on behalf of the american people and all of those struggling to get in the middle class. if you...
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yesterday, mitt romney was spotted at disneyland in california. yeah, romney even went on his favorite thrill ride, the monorail that brings you in from the parking lot. the third time today, i hope i don't throw up. ha, ha, ha, ha! he was there for unveiling of that new attraction, the hall of almost presidents. [ laughter and ohs ] you could tell it was romney, spent a lot of time with snow white but completely ignored snow black and snow latino. [ cheers and applause ] happy, happy birthday to "call me maybe" singer, carly rae jepsen. [ cheers ] turned 27 today. her friends sang happy birthday, or as it's also known the only song that's been played more than "call me maybe." [ laughter ] some big, big entertainment news, you guys. today was the release of the movie, "life of pi." it's about a boy stranded on a lifeboat with a tiger. or as chris christie put it, kind of a misleading title. [ laughter ] snooze. i thought it was about this hostess situation? don't mind if i don't. >> steve: don't mind if i do. >> jimmy: some more celebrity news, k
yesterday, mitt romney was spotted at disneyland in california. yeah, romney even went on his favorite thrill ride, the monorail that brings you in from the parking lot. the third time today, i hope i don't throw up. ha, ha, ha, ha! he was there for unveiling of that new attraction, the hall of almost presidents. [ laughter and ohs ] you could tell it was romney, spent a lot of time with snow white but completely ignored snow black and snow latino. [ cheers and applause ] happy, happy birthday...
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romney destroyed rick perry on that issue. but it was in the rhetoric he deployed there i think he sealed his fate in the general election with latinos who he got blown out in and provided a huge margin in a lot of swing states. >> great point. my choice is, of course, the anonymous videographer who captured the 47% tape which is why we happen to have that tape now. >> i was going to say you guys worked that out. >> why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what was the best move of 2012? >> this is really hard because some part of me as a political junkie thinks the best move is the most incendiary crazy there, for that mitt romney moving across the stage and grabbing rick perry on the shoulder. this physical debate style which also revealed him for crazy and not driven by the same things most humans are driven by but the competitive workforce bot. i think at the end of the day we keep going back to the 47% video. i was waiting to hold it. >> you can use it as much as you want. it will be back. >> it is everyth
romney destroyed rick perry on that issue. but it was in the rhetoric he deployed there i think he sealed his fate in the general election with latinos who he got blown out in and provided a huge margin in a lot of swing states. >> great point. my choice is, of course, the anonymous videographer who captured the 47% tape which is why we happen to have that tape now. >> i was going to say you guys worked that out. >> why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what...
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test. >> barack obama didn't perform that well until late and romney didn't perform the campaign well. campaign management is more important than an individual candidate's performance. >> woodruff: from boston, hari sreenivasan reports on a city- wide effort to keep kids engaged in education through meaningful work experiences. >> we're starting at the very early ages to try to help young people speak. that is a direct relationship to being successful in school and being successful in your life >> woodruff: and we close out 2012 with two takes on history, first, a look at the emancipation proclamation on the eve ofhe 150th aiversary of president lincoln's action to end slavery and the civil war. >> woodruff: plus michael beschloss and richard norton smith talk about potential historical turning points of the past year. that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> and by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 21st century. >> and wi
test. >> barack obama didn't perform that well until late and romney didn't perform the campaign well. campaign management is more important than an individual candidate's performance. >> woodruff: from boston, hari sreenivasan reports on a city- wide effort to keep kids engaged in education through meaningful work experiences. >> we're starting at the very early ages to try to help young people speak. that is a direct relationship to being successful in school and being...
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i want to ask why npr and pbs are such a target for people like john sununu or romney. why, particularly at npr, where fairness and our objective is seem to be so emphasized, why does everyone -- i guess, why are you such a target for people you would think would embrace fairness and conductivity? >> who would that be? " that's true. why is big birds such an enemy? >> its not a big bird. big bird is the savior. you're after year, every administration has bumped into -- has collided with npr and complained about it. republicans and democrats. it's only republicans that want to fight. the only thing that beat them back every time is big bird. he's invincible and he slices through the opposition. why public radio and public television is such a target is public radio is increasing in influence, but most important is that% of public radio's money comes from the government. if that money were not there, if they did not have the taxpayer banner to wave, they would not have a case to make. -- 10% of public radio's money comes from the government. it has been 30 years of creati
i want to ask why npr and pbs are such a target for people like john sununu or romney. why, particularly at npr, where fairness and our objective is seem to be so emphasized, why does everyone -- i guess, why are you such a target for people you would think would embrace fairness and conductivity? >> who would that be? " that's true. why is big birds such an enemy? >> its not a big bird. big bird is the savior. you're after year, every administration has bumped into -- has...
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let me take this part. >> name mitt romney's sons. >> shlep. tag. josh. matt. >> yes. >> craig. >> oh, you did it. >> do we have the election night -- >> there's a photo that kathy sent me on election night and told me to show it to david gergen in the midst of our election coverage. >> i love gary tuchman. >> gary tuchman is an amazing reporter. >> obviously, you are angry with him. to send him groundhog day style to some sort of town in maine where he drops a minnow in a bucket. am i getting this correctly? >> ryan! ryan, screw you. we improvise and we're real. >> i was once doing a live shot with paula zahn and i was in sri lanka and a dog humped my leg. i just started giggling. i was just like, finally, paula, i've got to tell you, there's a dog humping my leg. >> is that how you lost your cherry? >> wow. nice to see you. i almost wore this, psy. >> this is not awkward at all. >> no. >> who was that? >> that was mc hammer. >> no. really? >> yes. >> babe. i got you, babe. >> i got you, babe. >> i started sexting george stephanopoulos. >> really? >> yea
let me take this part. >> name mitt romney's sons. >> shlep. tag. josh. matt. >> yes. >> craig. >> oh, you did it. >> do we have the election night -- >> there's a photo that kathy sent me on election night and told me to show it to david gergen in the midst of our election coverage. >> i love gary tuchman. >> gary tuchman is an amazing reporter. >> obviously, you are angry with him. to send him groundhog day style to some sort of town...
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will mitt romney ever reveal his true self via ring tone. newt gingrich's ring tone is dancing queen. i think that nobody's going to take a chance on newt gingrich. i could be wrong. can you hear what he is playing? this is dancing queen by abba. i paid for the dancing queen ring tone and i'm keeping it. good-bye, sir. we will miss you until you do it again in four years, if you can figure out how to make money off of it. i live for days like this in politics. easily the best new thing in my world today. best new thing in the world today. everybody's today's news best new thing in the world. best new thing in the world. there's a lot of them. hold on. we'll be right back. [ dylan ] this is one way to keep your underwear clean. this is another! ta-daa! try charmin ultra strong. it cleans so well and you can use up to four times less than the leading value brand. oh! there it is. thanks son. hey! [ female announcer ] charmin ultra strong has a duraclean texture that can help you get clean while still using less. and it's four times stronger ve
will mitt romney ever reveal his true self via ring tone. newt gingrich's ring tone is dancing queen. i think that nobody's going to take a chance on newt gingrich. i could be wrong. can you hear what he is playing? this is dancing queen by abba. i paid for the dancing queen ring tone and i'm keeping it. good-bye, sir. we will miss you until you do it again in four years, if you can figure out how to make money off of it. i live for days like this in politics. easily the best new thing in my...
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if you have rick santorum and mitt romney saying the minimum wage should be ingested, that would put pressure on them >> let me ask you this. do you think the people are as tired of the notion of governmentould do something? we have seen a little bang for the buck. a lot of people are going the other way. they are careful to go that way because they remember republicans. but is there a limit to what the government can do? would you say that cars being made safely, and they say, you know, government can' make an economy as a whole. >> they don't have much power. we have to demand more from big business. neil: wil the govenment demand that? >> business can hardly keep up with the corporate climb. barclays, jpmorgan chase, now, wasko, 3 billion-dollar fine. we have to save these corporations. they were built on the backs of american workers. build buildout by american taxpayers. recording record profits. sitting on trillions of dollars, keeping them away from their owners and the investors a the workers. neil: are you saying that there was crime involved? there was no crime involved. ar
if you have rick santorum and mitt romney saying the minimum wage should be ingested, that would put pressure on them >> let me ask you this. do you think the people are as tired of the notion of governmentould do something? we have seen a little bang for the buck. a lot of people are going the other way. they are careful to go that way because they remember republicans. but is there a limit to what the government can do? would you say that cars being made safely, and they say, you know,...
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just romney, the taxes. the biggest story of the year was journalists didn't cover the story. >> greg: throw benghazi in that was well. >> andrea: nonstory. programming note. catch kimberly and greg tonight on fox news channel all american new year's eve broadcast at 11:00 p.m. >> greg: we'll be in a hot tub. >> kimberly: no, we won't. >> eric: waiting for ball to drop. what did you say? you lost your pants in a hot tub somewhere? don't go away. much more to come. special including a look at some of the wild moments of the past year on "the five." don't miss it. ♪ ♪ >> with hotwire's low prices, i can afford to visit chicago for my first big race and l.a. for my best friend's wedding. because when hotels have unsold rooms, they use hotwire so i got my hotels for half-price! >> men: ♪ h-o-t-w-i-r-e ♪ hotwire.com ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: hello. welcome back to "the five" new year's eve special. to stuff we covered this year that we hope will go away in 2013. okay, i'm going to begin right here. if around t
just romney, the taxes. the biggest story of the year was journalists didn't cover the story. >> greg: throw benghazi in that was well. >> andrea: nonstory. programming note. catch kimberly and greg tonight on fox news channel all american new year's eve broadcast at 11:00 p.m. >> greg: we'll be in a hot tub. >> kimberly: no, we won't. >> eric: waiting for ball to drop. what did you say? you lost your pants in a hot tub somewhere? don't go away. much more to come....
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you know, mitt romney talked about big bird and pbs during the debate and people laughed. it wasn't that laughable. it's one of the bigger things left you can cut. you can cut amtrak. there aren't a lot of things that are billions of dollars in the budget you can cut. you need to cut things that hurt, that people care about. >> the deal with the sequester cuts was half out of defense, half out of discretionary spending. that's where entitlement reform stands. there are ways to cut what the president calls accurately bending the long term cost curve. you're not cutting costs in a way that can reduce economic growth immediately, but you reduce the long term debt obligation for the country, which is what we need to do. both parties agree with that, but the debt ceiling creates a situation where we really will have to start dealing with it. if we deal with it constructively, that's great for the economy. if we deal with it destructively like we have every other time we played this game, the country could be in trouble. >> i think you're right, i don't think you're even going t
you know, mitt romney talked about big bird and pbs during the debate and people laughed. it wasn't that laughable. it's one of the bigger things left you can cut. you can cut amtrak. there aren't a lot of things that are billions of dollars in the budget you can cut. you need to cut things that hurt, that people care about. >> the deal with the sequester cuts was half out of defense, half out of discretionary spending. that's where entitlement reform stands. there are ways to cut what...
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then i was going to say the nomination of mitt romney. i think that's unfair. the entire movable feast horror show that was the republican nominating process. the primaries, the iowa caucuses, all the way through the ends up compounding a lot of the g.o.p.'s problems. >> bret: there were five really good debates. [ laughter ] >> bret: in there. i don't know which ones but there were at least five. >> out of 1700 debates and then i started thinking of what is something we can all sort of truly agree on. mark twain once said that the reason why we rejoice at weddings and cry at funerals is because we're not the person involved. i will be a little bit more upbeat and say that the one unifying highlight was that the myians were proven wrong about the end of the world. and i know that's low hanging fruit, but if you look back on 2012 it was a really awful awful year in so many ways from sandy hook on down. at least we can all agree that a fiery consumption of the planet didn't happen. >> boehner for him it was his plan c. >> bret: myans didn't get that right. >> bre
then i was going to say the nomination of mitt romney. i think that's unfair. the entire movable feast horror show that was the republican nominating process. the primaries, the iowa caucuses, all the way through the ends up compounding a lot of the g.o.p.'s problems. >> bret: there were five really good debates. [ laughter ] >> bret: in there. i don't know which ones but there were at least five. >> out of 1700 debates and then i started thinking of what is something we can...
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like this ad romney ran in the state of ohio. it claimed jeep was moving to china because of the automobile loan, and it was totally false. and it totally backfired on the camp. it toe workers and their families turned out in full force on election day. and of course president obama won ohio. middle class americans across this country stood in long lines to cast a vote for the candidate who would help them the most. they ignored the republican threats about a failing economy. the republicans wanted to kill organized labor. in 2012, they may have given it new life instead. here is someone who has been with us all yearlong covering workers' issues. joining me tonight, john nichols, washington correspondent of "the nation" magazine. john, it has been a very eventful year when it comes to labor. has labor been emboldened by the obama victory in november? and is there really been a new stage set for what they can accomplish? >> i think so. i think labor changed over the last year and a half, and especially over the last year. one of t
like this ad romney ran in the state of ohio. it claimed jeep was moving to china because of the automobile loan, and it was totally false. and it totally backfired on the camp. it toe workers and their families turned out in full force on election day. and of course president obama won ohio. middle class americans across this country stood in long lines to cast a vote for the candidate who would help them the most. they ignored the republican threats about a failing economy. the republicans...
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neither the president or romney talked about climate change during the election. people began to talk about the issue. mayor bloomberg endorses the president in part on climate change. the storm, the prolonged drought affecting our nation's crops, they do not change everything. we have not won the battle. they do open up a conversation from which we can begin to make the changes we desperately need to make. >> we will come back to issues around that. let's hear the last set of predictions from the governor, who was the head of epa under george w. bush. also, the 50th governor of the state of new jersey. he has more powers in the state than any other government. it is a very important position. [applause] >> thank you. making predictions about 2013 is a dicey proposition. the chances of getting anything right are getting more difficult. i will say that you have a department of energy calling for a 22% in trees. -- in power demand. that is yesterday. making sure there are decisions. what do i see for the future? we're going to see an increased discussion on climate
neither the president or romney talked about climate change during the election. people began to talk about the issue. mayor bloomberg endorses the president in part on climate change. the storm, the prolonged drought affecting our nation's crops, they do not change everything. we have not won the battle. they do open up a conversation from which we can begin to make the changes we desperately need to make. >> we will come back to issues around that. let's hear the last set of predictions...
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governor romney, there's one thing i'm confused about. you say you don't want to go and round up people and deport them. but you say they would have to go back to their home countries and apply for citizenship. if you don't deport them, how do you send them home? >> the answer is self deportation. which is people can decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal document tation to allow them to work here. >> there was a little at the timer there in the back round. first of all, the phrase "self deportation". >> was a headline. >> yes. and it managed to summarize everything people didn't like about mitt romney. >> you mean firing you? >> well, the firing part of it. but the sort of cold part of it. that these are just sort of numbers on a spread sheet. these people were self deport. and i think the combination of the two, the cold hardedness and the cold-bloodedness of it just played into everybody's view of romney. >> like the bathtub is just going to overflow. >> well, it's just n
governor romney, there's one thing i'm confused about. you say you don't want to go and round up people and deport them. but you say they would have to go back to their home countries and apply for citizenship. if you don't deport them, how do you send them home? >> the answer is self deportation. which is people can decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal document tation to allow them to work here. >> there was a...
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test. >> barack obama didn't perform that well until late and romney didn't perform the campaign well. campaign management is more important than an individual candidate's performance. >> woodruff: from boston, hari sreenivasan reports on a city- wide effort to keep kids engaged in education through meaningful work experiences. >> we're starting at the very early ages to try to help young people speak. that is a direct relationship to being successful in school and being successful in your life >> woodruff: and we close out 2012 with two takes on history, first, a look at the emancipation proclamation on the eve of the 150th anniversary of president lincoln's action to end slavery and the civil war. >> woodruff: plus michael beschloss and richard norton smith talk about potential historical turning points of the past year. that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> and by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 21st century. >> an
test. >> barack obama didn't perform that well until late and romney didn't perform the campaign well. campaign management is more important than an individual candidate's performance. >> woodruff: from boston, hari sreenivasan reports on a city- wide effort to keep kids engaged in education through meaningful work experiences. >> we're starting at the very early ages to try to help young people speak. that is a direct relationship to being successful in school and being...
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neither the president's nor romney talked about climate change suddenly people began to talk about the issue. mayor bloomberg is on climate change. i think the storm that prolongs the rally is affecting our nation's crocked. they do not change everything. they do open up a conversation from which we can begin to make the changes we need to make. >> we will come back to issue around that. the last set of predictions was the head of epa. prior to that the 50th governor of the state of new jersey. this has more powers in the state and id any other governor. it was very important. now she shares the state pension rate coalition. >> thank you very much. making predictions about 2013 is a dicey proposition. the chance of getting anything right are getting more difficult. i will say that you have a department of energy calling for a 22% in trees. that is yesterday. making sure there are decisions. what do i see for the future? we're going to see an increased discussion on climate change. it will be driven by the private sector. the state and local governments have been the laboratories of dem
neither the president's nor romney talked about climate change suddenly people began to talk about the issue. mayor bloomberg is on climate change. i think the storm that prolongs the rally is affecting our nation's crocked. they do not change everything. they do open up a conversation from which we can begin to make the changes we need to make. >> we will come back to issue around that. the last set of predictions was the head of epa. prior to that the 50th governor of the state of new...
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mitt romney was also very bad messeng messenger. former bain capital expect wif the 47% comment and so many other things made it very, very difficult to win over middle class voters that might be otherwise receptive to republicans so i think the party needs new messengers and new messaging and showing and demonstrating that the party shares the voters' values, whatever those might be and i think as part of the soul searching process that republicans are going to do many republicans hope is to look at what policies that should change, what messages to change, what their priorities are in washington especially with a democratic president. why push something that will not pass when you could get on board with common sense thing that is aren't necessarily supporting the rich over everyone else. the other thing that republicans have traditionally done well on is talking about opportunity, present your policies as improving opportunity for everyone. you tend to do better. they did a bad jb of that the last year. >> we'll see. we were talk
mitt romney was also very bad messeng messenger. former bain capital expect wif the 47% comment and so many other things made it very, very difficult to win over middle class voters that might be otherwise receptive to republicans so i think the party needs new messengers and new messaging and showing and demonstrating that the party shares the voters' values, whatever those might be and i think as part of the soul searching process that republicans are going to do many republicans hope is to...
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won i would say because the alternative was thought to be so much worse many voted out of fear that romney could win for them he was another george w. bush so whether americans have fallen out of love with obama the two thousand and eight euphoria was gone that's for sure back then there were these crowds you know in the streets all across the country shedding tears of joy so bad in their view where the eight years of bush presidency obama was greeted as the savior and then he went and saved the banks saved the auto industry something he took a special pride in during the election campaign but across the country millions of people remained out of work and are still out of work so this time president obama ran under the banner it could have been so much worse as you imagine it was not a banner for national euphoria it was more like you have no choice but to choose me kind of better it's so interesting they are talking about choice i just flew in from new york today and my first kind of question i was asking people when i got there was why is it this choice between the worst of the two evils
won i would say because the alternative was thought to be so much worse many voted out of fear that romney could win for them he was another george w. bush so whether americans have fallen out of love with obama the two thousand and eight euphoria was gone that's for sure back then there were these crowds you know in the streets all across the country shedding tears of joy so bad in their view where the eight years of bush presidency obama was greeted as the savior and then he went and saved...
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mitt romney was, you know, very careful about social security. in the primaries he tried to outflank rick perry on the left on social security. so, yeah, yeah, republicans don't want to be seen as the people who are taking money away from old people while defending millionaire's tax cuts. they're very careful about that. >> the problem here is that these debates cannot happen simultaneously for republicans. they can't do social security, medicare reform, and cuts while they're extending or pushing for extension of tax breaks on the wealthiest. it doesn't work politically. if they want to do those two things, they have to be separated from extending tax rates from the top percent. >> they can't do it now, but could they do it on the dead death limit? will we satisfy sea the same fight return in 30, 60 days? >> yes. we're going to see it on the debt limit. we're going to see it on the continuing resolution that funds the government, which runs out in about march, so we're going to see this kind of stuff again and again. republicans, i've talked to
mitt romney was, you know, very careful about social security. in the primaries he tried to outflank rick perry on the left on social security. so, yeah, yeah, republicans don't want to be seen as the people who are taking money away from old people while defending millionaire's tax cuts. they're very careful about that. >> the problem here is that these debates cannot happen simultaneously for republicans. they can't do social security, medicare reform, and cuts while they're extending...
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romney was not able to live that one down, especially on-line. >> take a lisp. i want to play this one for you. >> i'm sorry, jim. i am going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> big bird here, patrick, may have never been so famous. did the big bird situation really hit home some. >> it did in the sense that it sort of made romney a purchling bag in the same way that another item on our list that some of the social media highlights either republicans or the national bench. when you get the moments that are sort of funny on the substance of them, but also sort of lend themselves so social media, and that was the case with clint eastwood and the case with the big bird comment. a lot of big bird fans on twitter, and they sort of made mitt romney eat his words on that one with the fake accounts and things like that. >> there goes the invisible obama. we have that chair there. that was a funny account. that was opened just within that same night. there's also this photo that was tweeted out by the president on election night. you remember. it became the most retweeted pho
romney was not able to live that one down, especially on-line. >> take a lisp. i want to play this one for you. >> i'm sorry, jim. i am going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> big bird here, patrick, may have never been so famous. did the big bird situation really hit home some. >> it did in the sense that it sort of made romney a purchling bag in the same way that another item on our list that some of the social media highlights either republicans or the national bench....
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the ohio state university analysis says 19,000 of those voters would have cast their ballots for mitt romney but the rest would have gone to president obama. governor rick scott initially denied there were problems and refused to extend early voting hours. both hispanics and blacks were disproportionately deterred from voting. >>> the german magazine mistakenly published an online obituary sunday for former president george h.w. bush just hours after a family spokesperson said the 88-year-old is recovering from his illness. the obituary wasn't flattering describing the former president as, quote, a colorless politician. it was taken down after a few minutes. today the legendary "newsweek" magazine will publish its last edition and playoff to a digital only format in the new year. new economics of the media industry made it a money loser. gallup has just released its annual most admired list. for the 11th year in a row hillary clinton is the most admired woman. for the fifth consecutive year president obama is the most admired man. if you read only one thing this morning, in honor of new year
the ohio state university analysis says 19,000 of those voters would have cast their ballots for mitt romney but the rest would have gone to president obama. governor rick scott initially denied there were problems and refused to extend early voting hours. both hispanics and blacks were disproportionately deterred from voting. >>> the german magazine mistakenly published an online obituary sunday for former president george h.w. bush just hours after a family spokesperson said the...
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david: their standard bearer in the election was romney, not the tea party. stuart: do you think if a tea party guy has been the republican standard-bearer in 2012, i don't know a name for you, not mitt romney, a tea party guy, do you think that person would have won? david: if he could have drawn the energy from 2010, yes. >> do you think he would have won? >> yes. >> only chance for success in the election and policy. stuart: it just didn't seem like that, did it? a rotten economy and we re-elect a president who is in charge of that are then economy. who could have seen that? i didn't see that coming. >> short-term incentives. you know, it is where the money is in the republican party. it is where the donor base is. the tea party isn't one entity, it is a label given to a movement. stuart: jeff, come join us again as this thing plays out as it will. thank you. >> thank you. stuart: you certainly have fiscal cliff fatigue, got it. so next, my take on foreigners. >> you know, if you're a businessman, how do you decide what you are going to do with your busine
david: their standard bearer in the election was romney, not the tea party. stuart: do you think if a tea party guy has been the republican standard-bearer in 2012, i don't know a name for you, not mitt romney, a tea party guy, do you think that person would have won? david: if he could have drawn the energy from 2010, yes. >> do you think he would have won? >> yes. >> only chance for success in the election and policy. stuart: it just didn't seem like that, did it? a rotten...
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i think republicans thought that mitt romney could win and they would approach the fiscal cliff differently. democrats obviously hoped the president would win and they could do this at the last minute this is the way washington has operated now but the biggest problem isn't the lack of compromise it isn't the fact that they're doing this at the last minute. that we're still not serious about reforming spending and these entitlement programs. gregg: especially the entitlements. steve hayes, thanks very much. >> thanks, gregg. heather: coming up, big news to report about a celeb couple. i know gregg is waiting for this one. gregg: i'm so cynical about this. heather: kim kardashian and rapper con quite west -- can west getting ready for patter of little feet. gregg: 2012 with minutes taking away before we ring in the new year. thousands packing times square in new york city gearing up for a big party there. ♪ @ ♪ sing polly wolly doodle all the day ♪ ♪ hah @ gregg: the house of representatives is in session right now. they're debating the so-called fiscal cliff but to our knowledge the
i think republicans thought that mitt romney could win and they would approach the fiscal cliff differently. democrats obviously hoped the president would win and they could do this at the last minute this is the way washington has operated now but the biggest problem isn't the lack of compromise it isn't the fact that they're doing this at the last minute. that we're still not serious about reforming spending and these entitlement programs. gregg: especially the entitlements. steve hayes,...
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for these guys to make a deal given that for 215 of them, the constituency they represent are mitt romney's? >> i think this is the problem. where most people follow a presidential election and don't realize what happens in each of the districts. what republicans have done a very good job of in the past ten years or past two driklecycles governor's races, where they've won all the governor's races, redistricted by controlling legislatures and governorships, and they have the ability now to make very safe republican districts, where as opposed to having what we had was about 40 years of democratic control in the house, you could see a decade, at least, of republican control, perhaps, because of the fact that they are, or at least make it tougher for democrats to take back over the house. now, we crunched the numbers as well a few weeks ago to say there's something -- there is a vast majority of these folks have won with 60% or more in those districts. >> yes, remarkable. why compromise? >> yeah, why compromise? you know, it's just funny to me, because when you think about the fact that nothi
for these guys to make a deal given that for 215 of them, the constituency they represent are mitt romney's? >> i think this is the problem. where most people follow a presidential election and don't realize what happens in each of the districts. what republicans have done a very good job of in the past ten years or past two driklecycles governor's races, where they've won all the governor's races, redistricted by controlling legislatures and governorships, and they have the ability now...
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joining us now to help us sort out this mess, we have former adviser to the bush administration and the romney campaign, dan senor. dan, will we go over the fiscal cliff? >> i'm afraid we will. i think it will get fixed right after right into the new year but i don't think it will get solved. >> something small, kicking the can down the road? >> correct. >> that same old thing. >> deal with the impasse until we get to the debt ceiling impasse. >> we'll talk about the politics of that coming up. former governor of pennsylvania and nbc news political analyst, ed rendell. ed, are we going over the cliff? >> no, i think we will kick the can down the road emphatically, but we won't go over the cliff. >> wow. director of the earth institute, economist dr. jeffrey sachs. if we do, should we? >> more of the same because we're not going to solve anything, even if there's a deal today, we're going to see exactly that same tape replayed in two months, four months, six months. so i think there will be some kind of deal today, tomorrow, but it won't solve any of the basic issues. >> so a doomsday deadline
joining us now to help us sort out this mess, we have former adviser to the bush administration and the romney campaign, dan senor. dan, will we go over the fiscal cliff? >> i'm afraid we will. i think it will get fixed right after right into the new year but i don't think it will get solved. >> something small, kicking the can down the road? >> correct. >> that same old thing. >> deal with the impasse until we get to the debt ceiling impasse. >> we'll talk...